lovegrenoble 6 hours ago

50 years of orange disaster... Because of imperialism and american exceptionalism. By exceptionalism, I mean an idea that USA is a morally superior country for historical, ideological, and other reasons.

  • fxd123 4 hours ago

    How is it imperialism? The internationally-recognized government of South Vietnam asked the US for military intervention.

    The US signed peace accords in 1973 and removed all troops. North Vietnam broke the accords and invaded South Vietnam in 1975.

    • lenkite 3 hours ago

      > The internationally-recognized government of South Vietnam

      Err.. a puppet state created by France and only recognized by the West. It was never part of the UN and its membership was explicitly denied.

    • suraci an hour ago

      Thank you, USA

      - Vietnam/Korea/Taiwan

    • Teever 4 hours ago

      Some would argue that American intervention in Vietnam was a continuation of French colonialism and the Domino Theory was a tenuous justification for American imperialism.

      • lovegrenoble 4 hours ago

        Exactly, this Domino concept was first developed by U.S. Secretary of State J.Dulles

    • sofixa 3 hours ago

      > The internationally-recognized government of South Vietnam asked the US for military intervention.

      Nope. South Vietnam only existed because of the US. It had no popular support and it was basically a state out of whoever was left of those who collaborated with the French. The first head of state was Bao Dai, a guy who was the head puppet under France, Vichy France, Japan, France again and then US.

      South Vietnam was kept together by personal interest, anti-communism and American support.

  • sofixa 3 hours ago

    And also American decision makers being incapable of not misunderstanding Communism and various Communist parties/regimes. They made the mistake in Korea and then repeated it shortly after in Vietnam, of just limping everyone together - they're red, they're part of the same evil empire and work as one! How such dumbness ever made it to the White House and Pentagon is beyond me (on the other hand, the Pentagon also thought Japanese would make bad fighter pilots due to the shape of their eyes before WW2 which was just 20 years earlier, so is it really surprising?).

    The Vietminh were fought by the Americans because of the dumb Domino Theory and very dumb idea that Vietnam will become a Chinese and Soviet puppet. Neither of those things were really true or even realistic.

jmpman 2 hours ago

After battling my bougainvillea this afternoon, I’m about to resort to chemical warfare. Why is that plant popular, and why isn’t there an “Bougainvillea haters” Facebook group?

e40 2 hours ago

The absolute hubris of dumping that much of a chemical like that onto farmland continues to astound me.

litbear2022 6 hours ago

The United States dropped more than two million tons of bombs on Laos between 1964 and 1973, including a large number of cluster munitions [1].

More than 50 years after the war, bombs still threaten the local citizens[2].

During the construction of the China-Laos Railway, Chinese builders spent a great deal of effort removing leftover bombs along the route[3].

the destruction of Japan Abandoned Chemical Weapons had been delayed *4 times*(SHAME ON YOU JAPS) [4].

[1] https://www.undp.org/sites/g/files/zskgke326/files/migration... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2023/apr/27/i... [3] https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202307/1294231.shtml [4] https://www.mfa.gov.cn/eng/wjb/zzjg_663340/jks_665232/kjfywj...

MomsAVoxell 5 hours ago

See also, depleted uranium in Iraq. Iraqi mothers and their children will continue to suffer the costs of this heinous war for decades.

andsoitis 6 hours ago

this is absolutely heartbreaking.